Interview with Billy
Belcebú
by Cicatrix
[October 1998]
How did you start out in computers?
When i was 10 my brother was making his career, and my parents bought him a "powerful" 386 40Mhz with 8 megs of RAM (well, in 1992 it was cool). He told me how to initialize games, and such like. I really enjoyed the time i was in front of the computer, so 4 years ago i asked to my parents for a computer. And here i am :)
How and when did you start out in the virus scene?
I'm little time in the scene... About one year interested, and half year researching.
Have you written viruses? If so which would you like to take credit for?
I have only 100% finished the Antichrist Superstar, and i have very advanced other much more cool projects.
How do you name your viruses?
Generally the name is related to a punk/metal/hardcore song that i like. But there is a exception. I'm making one virus called "Emision Pirata", that it's a spanish radio program.
Which programming languages do you know?
BASIC :) PAS and ASM.
What programming language do you like using the most?
I love the PASCAL structure, but i find assembly much more useful for my needs.
Are you a member of a VX group?
Fuck yeah. I'm member of DDT ViRUS STUDiOS (shortened to DDT).
Which AV software do you like/respect the most? Which the least?
I like AVP, but i respect a lot the AVs coded by independent coders for his own (or his friends) needs without asking for money.
What are your goals (VX wise)?
My goals are to make the people change his viewpoint of what a virus is. But it's an impossible goal. They must understand the meaning of a virus, and the idea that the author has while making it.
What is your view on the continuous 'war' between VX and AV.
Is there a war? I think that the only thing the VX do is avoid all the walls that AV tries to make. And we are learning from this. The AV is interested in make people believe that there is a war: they wannabe the "John Wayne" of the film, and they say that we are like the man that is killing people or something :)
Where did you get you handle? What does it mean?
I went to see a film in the cinema called "Con Air" with my friend zAxOn. In the film appears a guy (a bad guy), called Billy Belcebú, a mass killer. I think "this nick sounds good for me" and here i am.
What is your view on Virus Creation software (eg. VCL, PS-MPC etc.)?
There're good virus creators, and there are VERY bad ones. The IVP (yuck!), VCL, NRLG and such like were very lame... I made my first steps looking to the sources generated by virus generators. And that is its usage: they're useful for learn. But i don't like the niggas that put his name and are saying "I made a virus, i'm very intelligent".
What is your view on macro viruses vs. assembly or HLL viruses?
I don't believe that the macro viruses are the solution. Microsoft can remove macro support if they like, and the world will be the same. As GriYo said, a computer can't run without an OS :)
Have you ever confirmed one of your viruses 'in-the-wild'?
No, i don't use to distribute them.
Which VX E-zine do you like to most? Which the least?
Which individual or what group do you like/respect in the VX world?
I really like the GriYo's style, and i respect all the people who is always researching for new ways of infection and such like. I also respect zAxOn, because he taugth (and introduced) me in the VX world. I like 29A, iKX and VLAD, and i respect all others (except the ones all we know :)
In the AV world?
I don't know anyone in the AV side, so i can respect anybody i don't know.
Which individual or what group do you like/respect outside the VX or the AV world?
I like individually to Che Guevara (he isn't in computer world but it still rocks :). Group? Legion of Doom (the classics in hacking!)
What is your view on destructive payloads in viruses?
I don't like them. Just think that the data you want to destroy could be yours.
Do you think there is such a thing as a 'good' virus?
Nope.
What do you do in 'real' life?
real life? What's that? :) I go to the damned school 7/8 hours in a day, and i really enjoy the time i'm with my friends. I also enjoy a cold beer, preety girls and such like. I'm always listening music.
Do people outside the VX scene know what you do (parents, girlfriend etc.)?
My parents know it, but they don't believe me. They think this is a thing that i'm saying for feel superior or something. A little group of friends know it (and about all of them are from DDT! :)
Do you do other computer stuff outside VX (Hacking, phreaking, warez etc.)?
Not too often. I like warez, but i use to call friends when i need a program.
Should viruses be illegal? Is there a difference between creation and spreading?
Fuck NO! Viruses musn't be illegal. They're a kind of art. Yes, there is a difference: i create viruses for my own satisfaction, and not for infect people with them.
Describe the perfect virus.
An intelligent one: must avoid existing/future AV, hide all kinda symptoms of infection, NOT DESTRUCTIVE, must analyze all files before infecting them in order to see if there is "dangerous" code for virus life... the perfect virus is impossible to do but it's good to try to do something alike.
What is your view on Windows (95/98)
Yuck! MicroBlowz fucks me, but i know this is (ouch!) the future.
What is your advice for people just starting out?
Be patient. Ask to the people of #virus channel in your favourite channel for doubts, download good ttutorials about this matter and don't give up! You're now in where we all were sometime ago. And don't hear the people that laughs with your questions.
Short responses to the following names or words:
- Dark Avenger A god.
- Dark Angel Good tutorials
- Sarah Gordon Flash Gordon :)
- Fridrik Skulason lamer
- Alan Solomon av rocker
- WordBasic/VBA without future
- VDAT Very complete and cool
- VSUM A bug
- Assembler the best so far
- Phalcon Skism Pioneers
- Polymorphic I love it
- Stealth A good idea
- I hate...... spice girls
- I love...... metal music
- Internet A fucking good idea
- IRC #virus, #vir, #hack
- Sex What we'll made without it?
- World War 3 don't like the idea
How did DDT start?
It started in the middle of 1997 as a very young group, made by four friends (zAxOn, frontis, Johnny Mnemonic and me). Johnny didn't pay attention to our projects so we kicked him from DDT :) We weren't known until october 1998, when zAxOn and me connected to internet.
How is DDT organized?
Well, we are all friends. I'm the main organizer (kinda boss) and zAxOn is my vicepresident. We hear all the thoughts, we think that we are all equal, but there must be someone for organize all our material and such like.
Where can you be reached if at all?
IRC HISPANO #virus, UNDERNET #vir, ddtstudios@hotmail.com, billy_belcebu@hotmail.com, http://members.xoom.com/billy_bel/
Any info on the zine and virus creator you are about to release?
About the zine i can say that we are collecting material: viruses, disassemblies, virus related articles and such like. I have to say that if someone want to contribute with a virus, or an article, feel free to mail me. The zine will be called... guess how? yeah, DDT magazine :) About the virus creator i can say that we have it almost finished, but we must solve the CRT pro- blem in Pentium II (the creator is made in PAS). It won't have destructive payloads, and the viruses will be fully commented. It was developed for help ppl that wanna learn. It will have polymorphism, tunneling, retro, anti-heuristic trick, anti-debugging stuff, anti-bait tecniques and some more surprises.
Any greets?
I have to greet to all DDT crew, Super, Darkman, GriYo, Roadkil, Cicatrix :) , Pockets and all my IRC friends.
Any other comments (take all the space you need)?
All is said. METAL RULES!!!